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The Vaccination conversation has been on for years. Obviously there are two sides in that conversation. Those who are voicing concerns about the repercussions that vaccines do to our bodies. And those who say that benefits outweigh any harm that may not be there at all.

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It’s been a huge discussion that vaccines are the cause for autism. I’ve been following the trend of advocates and non-advocates on both sides of the fence. Please visit Autism Science Foundation to read up on all the research that was conducted to investigate the relationship between vaccination and autism. All science shows that vaccines do not cause autism.

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  1. CoffeeTime says:

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    • Jessica Parent says:

      Good morning! I vaccinate my kids on all recommended vaccinations ….chicken pox made me leary as I had them myself as a child and didn’t find it to be a “necessary” vaccination, but I did get it for all 5 of my kids (except Gardasil – I kept very open dialogue with my daughter and let her decide herself whether or not to do the vaccines since it was her body the decision affects one way or the other and she was 12 before they even suggested it….which she finally chose to do at almost 17 yrs old) I do believe some vaccinations can be harmful to some with their various side affects but I also believe the benefit of them outweigh the risks in most cases. I’m not convinced they are the cause of Autism nor can I say for sure I believe they cannot cause it/contribute to it (but I also feel that could be environmental,something in all this crap they put in our food,ect)

    • Rebecca Swenor says:

      Good morning all. This is a great topic. I go both ways on vaccination.

    • Elicia P says:

      Morning all,
      Honestly, I am not going to say whether I do or not. This is such a touchy subject and I have a feeling this chat this morning is going to get ugly. Both sides feel very strongly about it and I have seen debates go very bad with this topic.
      With that said, I respect both sides.

      • Jessica Parent says:

        Lol -Don’t blame you, I thought we were staying away from controversial issues (most I’m on the fence with, so How could I possibly judge what someone else thinks/feels ) ….I respect both sides(although I’m more for them obvy since I already admitted I do them 😉 ) . I’d like to think the group we have had in here can keep from getting ugly though (at least I hope) 😀

      • Rebecca Swenor says:

        I feel same way about respecting both sides. Great answer. 🙂

    • Cynthia Dubuque says:

      Good morning! I understand both side of the vaccination debate.. I’ve gotten my kids all of their vaccines. My mom is a pediatric nurse and recommended for me not to skip any.

    • Good Morning.. Everyone.. wow this is a great subject… I vaccinate all of my kids.. for every vaccine.. and I do not spread them out.. I would rather have them get all they can at one time. then make them go back several times for more vaccines

    • Carol Yemola says:

      Good Morning. I have had all of my children vaccinated when they were due. They are now 32, 33, and 34 and have no issues. If anything, they have been protected from some devastating diseases.

    • Janice Dean says:

      Good morning! I haven’t had any children around to vaccinate in years, but the grandchildren are up to date on theirs!

      • Karen Hinkle says:

        good morning and yes this is going to get ugly for some me for one yes back in the day vacc were few but today they have so many that we as children never got I don not vacc my grandson he has autism he did get some shots till age 1 at age 6 mos he was speaking baby talk after them shots it all changed no more words and he was a different child after that so I have opted out due to all the progress we have made to get him on track I will not give him no shots for fear it will give him a set back and we have worked hard to get him where he is today so it is our choice to do it or not I will not bash no one for what they believe

        • Karen,
          You are not the only person who has ever mentioned that after a vaccination the child “changed”. It is your decision and yours alone not anyone elses.

        • thia beniash says:

          i must be lucky, or blind, but i have not heard of any of my mom friends have troubles because of vaccinations. how long after vac did these changes occur?

          • Karen Hinkle says:

            for my grandson it was like the day after he was not the same he didn’t babble or look at you the same way he would just stare into space

        • Jessica Parent says:

          Back a few years ago and online aqquaintance of mine said something similar happened with her son …..He stopped laughing, speaking and had sensory issues, hated to be touched out of the blue about 24 hrs after his 2 yr old check up and shots.These are the stories that scare the beejeezus outta me every time I have to make a decision regarding shots

          • Rebecca Swenor says:

            It is all about you researching before making decision. It can be from having more than one shot also. We just don’t know.

          • These kinds of stories are not reported to VAERS. A lot of doctors will just tiff it off and never report it. Any type of reaction a child has to a vaccine should be reported. You yourself can report it to VAERS. I was on a forum (debate) about this subject and a mom on there stated the reactions her child had to the vaccine. She wanted to report it and her doctor told her not to that it was normal.
            Turns out it was not normal

    • wendy c g says:

      Good morning

    • Amanda Alvarado says:

      I’ve had both of our kids vaccinated. I didn’t want to do the chicken pox on dd (it wasn’t around for ds and he had them) but didn’t have a choice if she was going to attend school. I refuse to get her the Guardasil…I feel it is an unnecessary vaccine. Luckily she is still too young. Personally I don’t feel it is so much the vaccines per say but what they are creating/making them out of these days that are causing all the side effects (some life altering). The ingredients are supposed to make vaccine better/more reliable but if it’s worked in the past why change them?! Oh I forgot – the pharmaceutical companies “need” more money!

      • Amanda,
        What state do you live in? Asking because you can get exemptions. All based on what state you live in.

        • Here is a link to State Vaccine Requirements

        • Amanda Alvarado says:

          I am in Texas and the schools only allow exemptions for religious beliefs or health reasons (or at least they were the only ones 5 years ago when she had to have the Chicken Pox vaccine). Luckily Guardasil isn’t a “required” vaccine….yet!

          • Yes, TX does not allow Philosophical. However, you can always come up with religion. You can not be turned down for your religious beliefs. The only pain is having to write up the documentation.

      • Jessica Parent says:

        I was also going to forgo Chicken pox for my children (and as mentioned above let my daughter decide on her own about the gardisil) They made it a law here in NY for them to have it to attend school as well by the time my 2nd was in Kindergarten (which is also when I had to do my 2nd grade daughter)

        • Jessica,
          You can always claim a religious exemption. You can not be turned down for religious beliefs!

          • And no, it does not matter if the children are vaccinated up to date. You can change religions at any time. It is your choice.

    • thia Beniash says:

      Good morning ladies! Well I have read through the comments thus far and boy I didn’t realize it was such a touchy subject. This will be interesting. I am eager to hear more facts. Now remember ladies, everyone is entitled to their opinion and we should, as ladies, respect it whether we agree or not.

    • Good morning all….

    • Mandi Gilliam says:

      Good morning! I am on the fence about it. A school teacher swore that when her son was vaccinated not even a week later, that he had suddenly stopped talking AND walking!!! And we are talking about a school teacher in her mid 40’s. The sweetest lady ever. So it’s kinda hard not to believe someone as credible as her. She taught in elementary school. And another thing I just read the other day that she shot GARDISIL is killing more people than having HPV does :-(. Was it a hoax??? I’m not 100% but what I read was SCARY!!!! I would suggest that everyone look into that before vaccinating with gardasil. 🙁

      • Jessica Parent says:

        I just keep hoping they don’t mandate it for school (I ve been asked to get it for my boys too more recently but I have refused that one) It only prevents against 4 kinds of HPV (there are over 100) …to me the benefit of that one does not outweigh the risk. I found 100’s of stories on gardisil hurting/killing girls back a few yrs ago when my daughter was slated to get it but at the same time I’ve had my own cervical issues over the years that doctor believes I wouldn’t of had if the vaccination was around when I was young .I made sure my daughter knew both sides and let her make her own decision on that one (she’s watched me go through cancer scares, biopsies and procedures and I also let her know there was controversy about gardasils side affects and stories that it kills some…we watched many youtube stories together and researched medical sites and asked lots of questions at the doctors during the 4 years she “thought about it” before going ahead with them and thankfully not having any issues)

        • Mandi Gilliam says:

          I am thrilled to hear that you did not have any complications! I found this out after having my 11 yr old vaccinated once for HPV. I will not get the other two shots

          • Jessica Parent says:

            Yeah Mandi-I had a very hard time forcing her to have shots that I was not totally comfortable with -even with my own cervical issues which I obviously do not want her to EVER have to experience.I wont lie-I was scared when she went through the series….and feel blessed that everything turned out ok.Only time will tell if the vaccination protects her at all. My doctor (specialist for my cervical issues) told me 80% of ALL women will have one form of HPV or another by the time they are 50 yrs old

    • Wendi Watson says:

      GOOD MORNING ALL! Yes i vaccinate my kids! and yes i think it is something everyone should do due to the diseases that are making their way back! I also read that in certain areas if you child is not up to date on immunizations that they will be forced out of school for 30 days until they are vaccinated and the shot has set in!

      • Wendi,
        Yes, if your child is not vaccinated and a outbreak at the school happens then your child must remain at home for 30 days. What the funny thing is a lot of cases the disease is transferred from those that are vaccinated (she my response to Carmen to support my claim. That is just one example).

        But if your child is not vaccinated and a outbreak occurs you DO NOT have to vaccinate. It is still your choice.

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  4. CoffeeTime says:

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    Many Parents Debate Whether to Vaccinate their Child or not. And if YES, then at What rate and When. All due to the fear of Autism.

    1. Here’s the study published in the Journal of Pediatrics may put them at ease.
    Researchers found no association between autism and the number of vaccines a child gets in one day or during the first two years of the current vaccine schedule.

    2. In those years when the debate about vaccine safety was at its highest, the cases of measles have increased significantly, all due to the non-vaccination.

    We live in a very dynamic world. International travel, imports of products and produce from different continents do increase our exposure to different, foreign, agents like viruses and germs.

    Vaccinating a child on time does bring a huge protection shield to her/his health.

    What I did with my child is I did not allow him to be vaccinated with a ton of vaccines at once. Only 1 vaccine per a visit. That’s it. I have created and figured out a safety scheduled from my point of view and research at that time and my knowledge of what’s going on in the body when a vaccine is administered.

    This way, I wanted to give my child protection he needs from terrible diseases like mumps, measles, tuberculosis, and yet not to overwhelm his body with all vaccines at once.

    • Cynthia Dubuque says:

      I like the idea of a vaccination schedule and not having all the vaccines done at once.

    • Rebecca Swenor says:

      That is good to know and I love how you only had one at a visit. I had gotten my kids vaccinated with schedule given by the doctor. I would not give my children any vaccine that I had not already gotten. I do believe from my experience now that research is extremely important before getting vaccine. In some cases people are forced to get vaccinated and I totally am against it. Like in the military. They are like guinea pigs and that can cause total life changes for them when the vaccine is new.

    • See I get them all at once.. I think its better to do it at one time than make them go thru each one on different dates.. especially since my kids are big babies when it comes to needles

    • Carol Yemola says:

      That’s a good idea. All of my kids are adults and were vaccinated according to schedule and before the fear of autism was heard of.

    • Elicia P says:

      The statement above about parents not vaccinating based on the autism research is false. Many parents have chosen not to vaccinate do so because they have done research on the effects and/or chemical composition of the vaccines. Many parents also have noted on how the vaccines effect children especially since the shots keep getting grouped to so many.

      A child’s immune system is not fully developed until they are at the age of two.

    • Janice Dean says:

      I have never had any Autism in my family and we all have been vaccinated since I can remember, and I am 57 with 2 sons, and 2 grandsons! It’s interesting to learn about though. Thanks

      • Karen Hinkle says:

        my grandson now 6 is healthy and we see a chriopracter once a week has had no shots after age 1 and he is doing fine

    • wendy c g says:

      I like the idea of one at a time. My kids are vaccinated. It can be very stressful and scary.

    • Amanda Alvarado says:

      If “they” are going to insist on children being vaccinated, I think they need to come up with a different schedule of administering them. There are just too many negative reactions these days not to.

      • Amanda,
        I completely agree with you. A lot of reactions are not even reported to SERS.
        For instance, a fever. That is a reaction!

        • Oh geez, I did not mean SERS (that is for reporting injuries at work in the hospital). I meant to say VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System)

        • Jessica Parent says:

          I agree ANY reaction should be reported including the fevers and I also agree that most are not (even the severe ones- from what Ive seen/heard when it does happen the docs push it off as coincidence and tend to blame something else entirely)

    • thia beniash says:

      i have followed the recommendations from my doctor. i chose a doctor that is not big on giving foreign substances to humans if avoidable. he has traveled the world and has learned many things from different cultures, which i can appreciate. i have given my trust to him after extensive research on his practices. my children have had no adverse reactions to any vacs. i consider myself blessed.

    • I liked the idea of the vaccination schedule.

    • I liked the idea of the vaccination schedule. I di choose to gave my 4 kids vaccinated. When I took my twins for their 3 year check up they got 4 vaccines.

    • Wendi Watson says:

      the fear of autism vs the fear of getting one these deadly diseases is more of a reason for me to vaccinate the percentage is very small for anything to go wrong all though i do know a little girl who was vaccinated that is now and forever will be in a wheelchair due to vaccination but i still will vaccinate. been years and years of this and only a 1 out a billion has a problem i have to stay with the vacc!

    • Mandi Gilliam says:

      When I vaccinated they gave him 3 shots maybe 4 and he ran the highest fever EVER! They even vaccinated him when I told them flat out that he may be sick and needed to be checked out thourougly before being vaccinated. Well I fell violently ill the next day and took me and my two boys to the hospital. I was at a fever of 103-7, the baby at 104.3. Well had the flu type A!!! I will continue to get the necessary vaccines or my children. But not anymore that what is REQUIRED. And doing the one shot at a time sounds like a great plan! I am going to do that! Thanks for the tip 🙂

    • Jessica Parent says:

      I did not limit vaccinations (always did 1-4 at a time) although stuff I saw in the media freaked me out a bit several times and would make me run home and jump on the internet and ask Doc a billion questions which I always asked him to prove his stance. I too have been freaked out by the rise in otherwise obsolete illnesses over the past 10-15 yrs and do believe it is related to so many choosing not to vaccinate, even though I completely understand why so many choose not to ….that being said I know our dr.s over medicate which makes me occasionally wonder if we are over vaccinating as well. I’ll take my chances with the vaccines than with my kids health though any day of the week (besides chicken pox and HPV most of the diseases they are trying to protect my children from “scare” me more)

  5. CoffeeTime says:

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    CDC recognizes that autism is an urgent health concern and supports comprehensive research as our best hope for understanding the causes of autism and other developmental disorders. Through collaborations with partners in government, research centers, and the public, CDC is focusing on three areas–

    – Understanding the frequency and trends of autism spectrum disorders.
    – Advancing research in the search for causes and effective treatments.
    – Improving early detection and diagnosis so affected children are treated as soon as possible

    • Cynthia Dubuque says:

      I’ve wondered if they are able to tell that a child could possibly be Autistic before birth. When they did my blood work, a test came back with numbers that indicated our first son could have spina bifida or down syndrome and we needed to see a genetic counselor.. it turns out he didn’t have either, but he is Autistic.. That test came back fine for our 2nd son.. My cousin’s wife, her test came back abnormal with 1 of her 4 children and that 1 child has Autism. The same goes for a friend of mine.. Maybe it’s just coincidence.

    • Precisely.. I hate that people who don’t vaccinate.. always use the fear of autism as an excuse to not vaccinate

    • Carol Yemola says:

      I don’t think that there has been enough research to confirm the connection between autism and vaccinations. Most is speculation.

      • Elicia P says:

        Carol,
        This is very true and sadly what the research that was done before has tainted any new research that would come about.

      • thia beniash says:

        i will agree with this. i would like to see more focused research before i finalize my decision.

      • Rebecca Swenor says:

        I do agree so we as parents have to make that choice and do the best we can for with the info we have now.

    • Janice Dean says:

      I have to agree, more research needs to be done on this.

    • Rebecca Swenor says:

      The research is always key as well as understanding the disorder. Diagnosing is very important also because sometimes it takes years for people to be diagnosed because their symptoms are different than other or usual.

    • wendy c g says:

      I believe there needs to be more research done. Also education about the vaccines. What are the pros and cons, it would help parents make a informed decision.

    • Amanda Alvarado says:

      I think autism is a problem in our country today but is it because of vaccines?? I don’t think so. Maybe a very few cases but who’s to say those children wouldn’t have been autistic if they wouldn’t have been vaccinated? Maybe it would have shown up later and the vaccines just sped up the process. I think we need to look at environmental factors and what is in our foods for a link to autism!

      • Darn, I wish I could remember the study I was reading. Researchers are starting to think that some people are predisposed to Autism and that some vaccines just wake up the autism.

        • Karen Hinkle says:

          @Erica that might be true

        • Rebecca Swenor says:

          Wow that is what the Military said about the Anthrax vaccine. Interesting!!!

        • Jessica Parent says:

          I believe that could be true…the docs believe my cousins mental illness was “woken” up from sexual abuse but that she may of ended up with it even had she never been abused (but said it probably would’ve happened later in life)

      • thia beniash says:

        our ancestors did not have all these problems. i believe that our food is being treated differently and that can be a cause of many illnesses. it would not surprise me to see a link between autism, adhd and food treatment.

        • I think the way our food is prepared (grown all the way to processed) has a lot to do with a lot of problems these days.
          For instance my mother, I, and my middle sister all menstruated late (meaning 14/15). My youngest sister who is 20 years younger than me menstruated at 10 and that seems to be common now.

        • Jessica Parent says:

          It would not surprise me in the least (but Im adding cancer to that list as well-that’s another thing on the rise or appears to be) Im not convinced its food (or “just” food but there is definitely something going on out there or we were severely underdiagnosed 15-20 yrs ago

    • I choose to vaccinate. ..to each their own

    • Wendi Watson says:

      my cousin has two boys that have autism now i cannot believe that it only has to do with vaccinations! I think it is in the chemistry of the genes they are both very intelligent people and i am starting to wonder if the IQ of someone plays a part in Autism

    • Mandi Gilliam says:

      Yes getting them treated at an earlier age is a staple. It took them years too long to diagnose my son. And I am watching my babies every move and sound praying that he does not have it! I would be lying if I said that I wasn’t CRAZY worrying over it!! 🙁

    • Jessica Parent says:

      I think a lot of it is “guessing” with Doctors….I don’t believe they “really” know exactly what is causing the spike in Autism (a lot of spikes in lots of things in the medical world….Cancers, diseases, other disorders) I hope we keep researching what exactly what is causing all of them and feel more time and money should be dumped into exactly that (and treatments for them all) Im not convinced it is vaccines (or rather “just” vaccines) but do believe something is causing a lot of todays problems and we need to find out what. Is it our food,water,vaccines, technology,ect ????

  6. CoffeeTime says:

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    Why Do Some People Believe Autism Is Linked to Vaccination?
    Thanks to PassportHealthUSA for this information

    “In the 1990s, as autism diagnoses in young children steadily increased, parents and some medical professionals began to raise concerns about pediatric vaccinations. Specifically, people were highly concerned about thimerosal, a preservative commonly included in childhood vaccinations.

    Much of the hype surrounding the link between preservatives, vaccinations, and autism can be traced to a 1998 study published by a British scientist avowing a link between vaccines and autism.

    However, the study was later proven to be erroneous, unscientific, and largely a fraud. Unfortunately though, once the article was published, the damage was done, and the belief in the vaccine-autism link became widespread. Even today, up to one-third of parents still adhere to the erroneous belief that vaccines and autism are linked, and ten percent of parents do not follow the recommended vaccination schedule for their children.”

    • Carol Yemola says:

      When making the decision to vaccinate or not, you have to look at the whole picture. The good must outweigh the bad in your decision. I don’t think that there is enough proof to confirm that vaccinations cause autism. If that were the case, everyone would have developed autism 20 years ago when it was accepted practice to definitely vaccinate children.

      • Karen Hinkle says:

        no we never had the vacc that the kids have to get today we had only a hand full of them before they leave the hospital they get vacc we never did till 2 mos

    • Cynthia Dubuque says:

      I often think that the number of children with Autism hasn’t increased as much as we think, however, the diagnosis of Autism has increased.. Now that more is known about Autism, more people are able to be diagnosed with it.. In earlier years, they were called wild children or assumed to just be bad kids.. There are rumors that Albert Einstein may have been Autistic.. How many people, back in his day, would have been found to be Autistic, if we knew then what we know now?

    • See because of things like this it puts not only their children at risk they put our children at risk.. if you don’t vaccinate your kids that is fine but keep them away from children that can’t be vaccinated so that if they get sick they don’t get those children sick too…

      • Carmen,
        You do realize that you, yourself can spread some of the diseases by not getting your boosters. So it is not only “those” children that are unvaccinated that can spread the diseases it is you too.

        Here is a snip it that I found:
        “A recent report in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases documented a fully vaccinated 22-year-old in New York City, who contracted measles and was contagious, transmitting the disease to four of 88 people she was in contact with. Two of those people were also fully vaccinated. It’s the first report of a fully vaccinated person getting and then passing measles.”

        FYI: that is a Medical Journal reporting that!

        Here is another one for you:

        Researchers reviewed data on every patient who tested positive for pertussis between March and October 2010 at the Kaiser Permanente Medical Center in San Rafael, California.

        Out of these 132 patients:

        81 percent were fully up to date on the whooping cough vaccine
        8 percent had never been vaccinated
        11 percent had received at least one shot, but not the entire recommended series

        • Rebecca Swenor says:

          Good point. Sorry Carmen.

        • thia beniash says:

          im confused how a fully vaccinated person can not only get it but pass it on? isnt the point of the vac is not to get it?

          • Rebecca Swenor says:

            I understand it to be that you can get it but not as bad to the point of death. That is on some anyway.

          • That is why you need to get boosters. To boost the vaccine in your body. Nothing lasts forever. If I remember correct MMR only last 10 years before a booster is needed. Whooping cough, it does not cause you to get the illness but it does not kill it. You can still transmit it.
            This goes the same with the flu shot. You can still get the flu but only have mild symptoms. However, you can still pass it along to others. It does not stop the spread of the virus and that is where the publics misconception comes in.

      • Karen Hinkle says:

        well my grandson has not been sick at all no colds we harly ever go to the Dr for him being sick only 2 times have we had to go due to ear infection

    • Janice Dean says:

      Well this is a sad topic. If the information is not accurately given to the public, and the parents are doing what they believe to be the right thing (because what parent would deliberately harm their child), then yes, a complete study should be conducted and the public informed.

    • Rebecca Swenor says:

      Sometimes when you have something you can’t fix you feel the need to blame it on something. Example I blame my condition on Anthrax vaccine I was forced to get while I was in the Army Reserves but it is from what I have read. Also from friends with same condition who are in the service.

    • wendy c g says:

      As I said before there needs be more research. Each parent needs to do research, educate themselves and make the decision that is best for their family. I believe in vaccinations, however I don’t blame or judge those who don’t.

    • Amanda Alvarado says:

      This study was 16 years ago! Where are the newer studies? Why haven’t they been published? I would think after this one was found to be a sham, numerous new ones wouldn’t have been done! Or are they just not being reported on?

    • Mandi Gilliam says:

      This needs to be further researched!! To inform parents doctors and everyone involved so that we can make the best decisions for our children.

    • Jessica Parent says:

      I also wonder if we Really have all these “spikes” in Autism and other diseases or if we are also just diagnosed better and/or more frequently

  7. CoffeeTime says:

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    Spacing Child’s Vaccines

    I am a proponent of spacing child’s vaccines. Just imagine what stress is a body under when just one vaccine is adminitered! And what happens when a bunch of them are injected all at the same time?

    Hei, it’s a HUGE stress on all bodily systems! That’s why I made my decision to allow only 1 vaccine for my child per visit. And I spaced all doctor visits with that thought in mind.

    The side effects could be high fever. There are potential side effects whenever any vaccine is given. Researchers found that the risk of “transient fever” (short lasting) increased threefold when flu and pneumococcal vaccines were given at the same time. The fever usually came on that day or the day after the shot. This was recorded in children 6 months to 5 years old.

    Dr. Oz also chose to spread out the vaccination schedule for his kids. Read it here in this interview.

    • Carol Yemola says:

      I think spreading out the vaccinations would relieve a lot of the concern associated with them. I strongly agree that this could be a means of protecting the children.

    • Cynthia Dubuque says:

      I have always gotten all the kids’ vaccines in the same visit.. sometimes, it would be up to 4 vaccines in the same day and later that day and the next day, they’d have tylenol.. I like the idea of spacing them out.

    • Is there any kind of studies that show that spreading out vaccines is better than giving them together

      • CoffeeTime says:

        Carmen,
        I found studies saying that some vaccines cause “transient fever”(temporary fever) when given together, like flu vaccine together with pneumococcal (link in #AMCoffee #5)

        What I’ve done for my child is to give him only 1 Vaccine per visit, and then wait for at least 4 weeks before going back for the next one.

    • Janice Dean says:

      I have to agree with this!

    • Rebecca Swenor says:

      I think this is a great idea and I would have done it if I had heard about when my children were younger. My niece has small children along with have a baby this summer I will make sure she is aware of this. Also my sister is having a baby in Aug. I will through this her way too.

      • Karen Hinkle says:

        well for a parent who has a autistic child it is all up to them to do what they need to it is our own opinion to do what ever we need to but this is all good info and I don’t take any of the comments to heart its every ones on beliefs

        • Rebecca Swenor says:

          I agree with you it is all up to the parents. Believe me when I tell you if I know what I know now about vaccines I would have done research before having my kids vaccinated instead of just listening to the doctors. I am talking from experience also.
          It is up to the parent to do the research because we are responsible for our own children and what happens to them.

          • That is a great point and what I have been trying to say. A lot of parents that are not vaccinating, selective, or delaying are educating themselves and not listening to propaganda have educated themselves.

    • wendy c g says:

      I’ve always been concerned about giving so many at one time. I like the idea of spreading them out.

    • Amanda Alvarado says:

      If I would have known about spacing them out when dd was younger, I would have done it. I definitely will if we are blessed with another…going on 5 years of trying so I highly doubt it!

    • thia beniash says:

      spacing them out is kinder to the child. who wants a ton of shots at once anyway? if you are introducing foreign substance to the body and it needs to fight them off, the body would have an easier time if it was not bombarded with too many at once.

    • I have always got my kids vaccines in the same visit..my twin girls check up was a bit rough..they both got 4 shots

    • Mandi Gilliam says:

      I love DR OZ!! Watch his show all the time! And I am in complete agreeance with this since what happened last time to my son! Never again will they give ANY of my children more than one shot at a time! Spacing will be administered here in my family!

    • Jessica Parent says:

      I def think I will limit the shots to 1-2 per visit with the new baby rather than the up to 4 my older children have always received. A lot of my kids suffered fevers on shot days and otherwise “blah” feelings for about 24 hrs after. I think Dr. Oz is wonderful-just started watching his show recently and feel he has a lot of valuable contributions to the medical world

  8. CoffeeTime says:

    amcoffee
    Another Point of View on Spacing Child’s Vaccines.
    By Segall Bell, MD

    I would like you to see what this doctor put together based on the research. Very interesting and educational.

    “Despite routinely vaccinating our infants and toddlers against 14 pediatric diseases [PDF] (15 if you count H1N1), compared to the single smallpox vaccine kids got a century ago, their immune systems get less of a workout. How can that be?

    Vaccine biology is much improved today. With purified proteins and recombinant DNA technology, we can target the desired antigen — that component that we want the immune system to “see” and remember — much more specifically. So while vaccines of the past may have had hundreds of antigens, today’s vaccines can have as few as one. Here’s the take-home: kids today get many more vaccines than the children who got the solitary smallpox vaccine, but they actually receive less immunologic triggers (approximately 150 versus 200 antigens from smallpox, according to researchers).

    Here are some more interesting numbers: using conservative estimates of immune system capacity, scientists estimate that infants could theoretically respond to about 10,000 vaccines at any one time. No one’s going to do that, but it does put things in perspective. For those who worry that multiple vaccines “overwhelm” the immune system, these researchers suggest that even 11 vaccines given at once only occupies about 0.1 percent of the immune system’s attention.”

  9. CoffeeTime says:
    • Carol Yemola says:

      Every new parent should receive a copy of these recommendations. Great info, Laura. Thanks for sharing. I am going to share it with my children so they can decide about the regime for their children.

    • Janice Dean says:

      Thanks for the info Laura! I am passing this on to my daughter-in-law for her to read!

    • Cynthia Dubuque says:

      They should put this among the paperwork they give you at the hospital upon discharge after delivery… Education is important.. It’s so easy to hear someone’s standpoint and just agree.. YOU need to do your own research and reading.. It’s YOUR child and nobody should be able to sway you in one direction or another.. Get the facts! 🙂 Great topic today, Laura! Thank you!

    • I am going to use this because I have a 6 mos old and a 19 mos old.. and I am also passing it on to my niece who just had a baby a week ago

    • Dr. Sear’s has a great book on Vaccines. He also has a schedule that a lot of parents follow.

      Note, not all Ped’s will allow you to space out. So when trying to find a Ped for your child talk with them and find out what their take is on vaccines. Make sure you align because you do not want to come up with a decision and then a few months from now they bully you into making a choice you do not want for your child.

    • Rebecca Swenor says:

      Sent all info to my niece and sister. Also told them to join group. 🙂 Ty Laura.

    • Amanda Alvarado says:

      Great starting point! Everyone should have to read this before getting vaccines for their children!

    • thia beniash says:

      okay, that was information overload and i feel like i am reading chinese (not my language by the way). maybe i will just print that out and have the doctor dumb it down for me.

    • Mandi Gilliam says:

      I am bookmarking this!!!! Too much info to process all at once but it’s definitely VERY HANDY AND IMPORTANT INFO FOR ALL PARENTS!! Thank you laura!!!!!

    • Thanks

    • wendy c g says:

      Thanks I going to pass this on to other parents

    • Jessica Parent says:

      Thanks for sharing Laura- I also think we should be given all good and bad information from our docs so we can make informed decisions regarding things instead of feeling like we “have to do something” or having to research everything on our own to make an informed decision

      • CoffeeTime says:

        Jessica,
        What Has and Ought to be done is almost never done. It is a horrible thing to realize. But it happens in almost ever area of life.
        Knowing that from my personal experience, I do the “leg work” any time I encounter situations like that.
        That is one Huge big thing Why we go to school – any school! It is to Learn How To Find Any Information on Earth, and Do It in a Smart, Efficient Way! Not just remembering facts. But that is another conversation for another day!

        • Jessica Parent says:

          I agree 🙂 I actually think that even if we did have some solid proof of whats going on in the world or if some miracle cures were discovered that they(govt’s,Dr.s,companies) would keep the information from the general public for their own agendas.(Also a convo for another day-LOL) I research everything I question and would even if someone told me I had all the information

  10. Karen Hinkle says:

    wow Laura what a great topic we all will have our own opinions and we will all neve be able to agree but it is good to hear what others think I am just expressing my opinion

  11. thia beniash says:

    how about a simple chart 🙂

  12. CoffeeTime says:

    Both my parents were physicians. My mom was a pediatrician with a large government posting for public health. My dad was a pediatric surgeon. I got all my vaccines on the schedule used back then. But I chose to have my son’s vaccines be separate.

    What i like about our group…what I wished were more prevalent in our country…was we can all have differing views. But that does not mean we are bad people and good people. The key, in our multi-cultural world, is to respect each other as individuals, even when we have different opinions.

    So, thank you everyone for keeping our discussion about ideas, and respecting each other. We all need that safe place to be, and Celebrate Woman needs to be that place for us all.

  13. Rebecca Swenor says:

    In the end, we all have to make the ultimate choice as parents with the info we have/ had at the time. Great info and comments everyone. Thanks 🙂

  14. CoffeeTime says:

    Every parent worries about their kids. And grandkids. We can sometimes be like mama grizzly bears wanting to do everything we can to protect them. So, it is sometime difficult to hear opinions expressed by others that come to different conclusions than we did when it is something we researched and thought a lot about.

    The key is to start with the strong belief that we are all trying to do the same thing, even if we end up doing different things. By respecting those differences as not meaning we are better, or someone is not as good as us, we can open a channel to communication. By keeping that channel open we can each learn something from the other.

    Thank you all for being that way here. It is appreciated.

  15. CoffeeTime says:

    We want to be happy. We want our kids and grandkids to be happy. We know at the root of that happiness is health. Vibrant health.

    That is why it can be so emotional when we are uncertain about things that affect our kids health. How can we protect them when we don’t know? That is the scary thing.

    To overcome that fear, all we can do is to research, listen openly to contrasting points of view, and consider long and hard, based on ALL the evidence.

  16. Mandi Gilliam says:

    Thank you LAURA!!! This has been a much needed to be discussed topic!!!! Thank you for hating all of your research with us to further educate us on the matter! And thank you to today’s sponsors, rabbids and crashlings!!!! 🙂

  17. Karen Hinkle says:

    well that was a great time thank you all this was interesting and lots of great Ideals you all have a great day I love everyone of u don’t judge you for your opinions have a great day

  18. Good morning. So nice to be able to have a discussion with others who have respect for each persons ideas and thoughts. Thanks Laura for the info.

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